Monday, December 12, 2011

Army Ranger and past criminal record?

hi i plan on joining the Army in a year or two when i finish my degree in Law Enforcement/Criminal Justice. I want to go 11B with Airborne School and RIP in my contract. One problem though, when i was 14 years old a friend and I were arrested for shop lifting at a thrift store. We were hand cuffed, finger printed and had our mugshots taken at the police station. Our parents came and picked us up after about 5 hours of being at the station, we didn't have to be bailed out and I don't even think I was charged with anything because it was so minor, I live in Chicago, my mother however told me that they said my record would be clean if I stayed out of trouble until my 17th birthday but she is often full of ****.



Right now I'm 20 years old, I'm in decent physical shape, I graduated high school with B average, and haven't been in any trouble other than that one incident in my whole entire life. In fact I actually thought that my record was clean until I tried applying for a security guard job which required me to get my finger prints taken for a Perk card. The employer ran my prints and told me that I was clear on with Illinois State Police but I wasn't with the FBI. I then called the Illinois state Police and they said that the FBI still has my prints from that one incident and that since it was a juvenile record they would have no problem getting it expunged.



but the thing that caused me to ask this question was today when my professor, who used to be a special agent, told the class that FBI never gets rid of records.



So I guess what I want to know is how will this effect my chances of getting the clearance required for the my desired MOS in the Army and also with future employment in the Law Enforcement community?Army Ranger and past criminal record?
hey i also am looking in to going to the army by the end of the year i also am looking in to going airborne ranger and after that i plan on going 11x your juvenile record should not be a problem if they didn't charge you all they have is your finger prints which might raise a flag but your recruiter should be able to take care of that but be sure to tell your recruiter up front any and every thing do not leave out any details maybe i will see you there

School: 1957 vs. 2008, some things to think about?



Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school,

pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's

shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled

off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again.

Counselors called in for traumatized students and

teachers.



Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after

school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake

hands and end up buddies.

2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and

Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though

Johnny started it.



Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts

other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by

the Principal.

Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class

again.

2008 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin and becomes a

zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state

because Jeffrey has a disability.



Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car

and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal,

goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist

tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused

herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has

affair with psychologist.



Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to

school.

1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the

smoking dock.

2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug

violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.



Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes

to college.

2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper

articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English

as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files

class action lawsuit against state school system and

Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core

curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing

lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from

4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and

blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2008- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged

with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings

removed from home, computers confiscated; Johnny's Dad

goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly

again.



Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and

scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary.

Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on

playing.

2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses

her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes

5 years of therapy.



This is to show how much we have

changed, and is it for the better or worse? Think about it!



School: 1957 vs. 2008, some things to think about?
unfortunatly this is sad but true..Very thought provoking. this is a good one! Just so,so sad that kids can't be kids nowadays. It's true as stated above things have changed and gotten worse but not to the extreme it is made to be now.School: 1957 vs. 2008, some things to think about?
I really wish some of that wasn't so true.
the 1950's were so much better for sure
Sure we have changed, but there was a great deal happening behind closed doors, as well as scandal and ruined lives when things came out in the open. Remember, illegal abortions meant dangerous abortions. People married when unready. There were still gangs, drugs and violence. People were taught to consume and conform in the fifties- that is when our culture of consumption began.

I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?

I am a junior in college and i am majoring in law enforcement.



my ultimate goal is to work for the FBI or the DOD or something of that nature.



i always planned on going into the military, but after sitting in classrooms my entire life i am beginning to become restless, and feel insignificant.



my question is



should i wait until i graduate from college and then go OCS. or should i join the ROTC and become an officer through them.



The ROTC seems like a lot of busy work and fluff, and the OCS seems like more of a direct route after college, but i am not sure which one is better, and which one will allow me to get the job i want in the military.



I don't care about the money, this is simply a career move. as the FBI and DOD will look at candidates with military experience first.



i have talked to a few recruiters but to tell you the truth they sound like a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to get me to sign my life over. promising me a job in MI. when in fact they could retract that at the drop of a hat and have me working at a kitchen in Fallujah, or getting my *** blown off in the streets of Baghdad.



don't get me wrong. its not that i don't want to see some action. its just not my first choice.



I want to become a Military Intelligence Officer. tell me how to do that.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
I went to ROTC so I may be a little biased but I think that is the best option. The program is a minimum of two years, but they can and most likely will pay for it. Seeing as how you are a junior, you could actually start working on a master's degree that second year. It really depends on how you're looking with your credit hours.



As far as MI, it really is a hard branch to get. There is no way to completely guarantee your branch. It seems that OCS is harder to get what you want though. In ROTC, you get ranked nationally and for the most part, the higher you are, the better chance you have of getting what you want. It's based highly on GPA and leadership that's accessed in ROTC and at LDAC. You can do an ADSO to improve your chances of getting the branch you want, but it will add years of service should you get that branch.



Be careful with OCS, because it's not guaranteed you will even get to go after you complete Basic and AIT.



Overall, I suggest ROTC. You can work hard and apply yourself, and it won't be a waste of time. You'll learn a lot and have a good chance of getting MI if you keep GPA up and develop your leadership skills.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
Well since you are not consistant in the capitalization of the proper noun 'I' then no, you don't seem to have the basic attention to detail or intelligence to be an officer.



Thank you and have a wonderful day.
Both options are about the same..... When you complete either of them you will be given a ';Dream Sheet';.....you will select three branches.....The military will ';try'; to give you your first choice.....but you will be assigned to the branch based on their needs not your desire

While it is true you can later possibly change branches (??) it is not the best course

Based on your major I feel you will possibly end up in the MP's

In your shoes I would go ROTC.... trust me.....I went to OCS.....and I taught ROTC at two universities.... your chances of getting some help is better in ROTC.... (BTW keep my address.....in your third year when you go to summer camp.....contact me I will give you some good tips)

While I was an Engineer officer.....I also spent considerable time in the Intelligence field ( both enlisted and officer)....



If you want to work for the FBI / DOD.....why serve in the military at all?..... Why not explore the options of going to work for them without the detour to the military

1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?

I most certainly DO!



SCHOOL -- 1958 vs.

2008



Scenario:

Jack goes quail hunting before school,

pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.





1958 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun,

goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.



2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail

and never sees his truck or gun again.

Counselors called in

for traumatized students and teachers.





Scenario:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.





1958 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.



Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.



2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.



Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started

it.





Scenario:

Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.





1958 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal.



Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.



2008 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie.



Tested for ADD.

School gets extra money from state

because Jeffrey has a disability.





Scenario:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car

and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.





1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal,

goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.



2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse.



Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang.



State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers

being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.



Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.





Scenario:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.





1958 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.



2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations.



Car searched for drugs and weapons.



Scenario:

Pedro fails high school English.





1958 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.



2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state.



Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that

teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist.



ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system

and Pedro's English teacher.



English banned from core curriculum..

Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns

for a living because he cannot speak English.





Scenario:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July,

puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.



1958 - Ants die.



2008- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called.



Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents,

siblings removed from home, computers confiscated,

Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list

and is never allowed to fly again.





Scenario:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee.



He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.





1958 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.



2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job..

She faces 3 years in State Prison.



Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.





This should hit every email inboxor Bulletin to show how stupid we have become!

Think about it!1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
I don't go back as far as the 50's but I got my share of paddling when I was in school in the 80's-I was a problem student and what else can a teacher do,even though I never learned from all the times I got swatted,I know other students thought twice before acting up after seeing me grabbing my ankles for 5 hard whacks!1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
Most of the stuff you said happens in ';2008'; doesn't. If there's a punch up at school, the kids get a detention.. what's with the whole ';SWAT Team'; Geez... where the f'uck do you live?



Personally, 2008 is a lot better, then 1958. With corporate punishment, and what not.



A/N: Everything that you listed as ';1958 Scenarios'; happens, at my school in 2009!
''This should hit every email inboxor Bulletin to show how stupid we have become!''



yes, you have become MORE stupid; these things happen only in america.
This is absolutely correct.
You're absolutely right. It's very, very sad, isn't it?



I know where this started and how it got this far, but every time I type it out, I get reported...the liberal Democrats keep thinking I'm attacking them when all we have to do is look at history...guess they don't like owning up to it...
No, guns should be kept out of school.



Now we just want to keep all the students safe. We don't want some lunatics bring guns to schools.



Keep the guns at home.

Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?

HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs2009

Scenario 1:



Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.



1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.



2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.



Scenario 2:



Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.



1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.



2008 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.



Scenario 3:



Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.



1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.



2008 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.



Scenario 4:



Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt..



1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.



2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.





Scenario 5:



Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.



1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.



2008 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.



Scenario 6:



Pedro fails high school English.



1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.



2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



Scenario 7:



Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.



1957 - Ants die.



2008 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.



Scenario 8:



Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.



1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.



2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison... Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.





This should hit every email inbox to show how stupid we have become!!Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
I love it, Mike. So very true. When I hear what my friends go through with their kids in school today (combined with what I hear on the news) I just cringe sometimes.Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
LOL. HAHA! Thats the truth though
come to think of it, it's true. things were much simple and better then.
so true
hahahahaha...its too good to be true...anyway its a bitter pill and ...one has to accept it..
Yes i have heard this and it really hits the nail on the head.
ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH. I WILL COPY THIS AND PASS IT ON TODAY TO PARENTS KIDS AND SCHOOLS THANKS FOR THE INFO I WAS BORN IN 1956 AND WISH THINGS WERE LIKE THIS AGAIN sorry about all caps forgot to change have a great weekend we need more people like you out there in this world
LOL!!! but still it is true , really we became stupid as the years pass, i wonder how the future genereation react on this scenarios
What a sign of the times, Mike.

How long before parents are 'frisked' before they enter the school grounds.

Thanks for sharing!
I think it's truth taken to extremes..but truth, nonetheless.



I'm sorry! I don't think it's 'funny ha-ha'...it's more like...something that makes you think. Thanks for sharing!

How stupid have we become?

Okay, i know this is random and not a question but what do you think of the following scenarios???:



SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007



Scenario :

Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot

with shotgun in gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his

car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to

jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for

traumatized students and teachers.



Scenario :

Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.



1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.

Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.





Scenario:

Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.



1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the

Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class

again.

2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested

for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a

disability.





Scenario:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a

whipping with his belt.





1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to

college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to

foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister

that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.

Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.





Scenario :

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.





1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.

2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations.

Car searched for drugs and weapons.





Scenario:

Pedro fails high school English.





1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear

nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for

graduation is racist. ACLU files Class action lawsuit against state

school system and Pedro's English teacher.



English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway, but

ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



Scenario:

Kyle takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them

in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.





1957- Ants die.

2007- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Kyle is charged with

domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from

home, computers confiscated; Kyle's Dad goes on a terror watch list

and is never allowed to fly again.



Scenario:

Robert falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is

found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.





1957 - In a short time, Robert feels better and goes on playing.

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job.

She faces 3 years in State Prison. Robert undergoes 5 years of

therapy.



So what do you think? Am i wasting points or actually showing how dumb we Americans have become? star is you please??? thanks!How stupid have we become?
It's never a problem until someone makes it a problem.



One expensive lawsuit and several ';once-taken-for-granted'; freedoms are lost.



One maniac with a gun at school redefines what parents want (and deserve) in safety for their kids.



One pervert is allowed into the school system, and again, rules and boundaries have to be reformed and redrawn.



Only, between 1957 and 2007, there've been far more than one perverts and far more than one maniacs with guns and far more than one frivolous lawsuits.



It's not, ';How dumb have we become?';

It's ';How violent have we become?';

';How evil have we become?';How stupid have we become?
I think this one answers another question about why the good old days were better. It's not just that we are becoming stupid, we are also becoming wussies. You never once mentioned therapy in the 1957 but look at how often it turns up in 2007. We didn't used to need the government interfering in our lives that much, either.
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