hi i plan on joining the Army in a year or two when i finish my degree in Law Enforcement/Criminal Justice. I want to go 11B with Airborne School and RIP in my contract. One problem though, when i was 14 years old a friend and I were arrested for shop lifting at a thrift store. We were hand cuffed, finger printed and had our mugshots taken at the police station. Our parents came and picked us up after about 5 hours of being at the station, we didn't have to be bailed out and I don't even think I was charged with anything because it was so minor, I live in Chicago, my mother however told me that they said my record would be clean if I stayed out of trouble until my 17th birthday but she is often full of ****.
Right now I'm 20 years old, I'm in decent physical shape, I graduated high school with B average, and haven't been in any trouble other than that one incident in my whole entire life. In fact I actually thought that my record was clean until I tried applying for a security guard job which required me to get my finger prints taken for a Perk card. The employer ran my prints and told me that I was clear on with Illinois State Police but I wasn't with the FBI. I then called the Illinois state Police and they said that the FBI still has my prints from that one incident and that since it was a juvenile record they would have no problem getting it expunged.
but the thing that caused me to ask this question was today when my professor, who used to be a special agent, told the class that FBI never gets rid of records.
So I guess what I want to know is how will this effect my chances of getting the clearance required for the my desired MOS in the Army and also with future employment in the Law Enforcement community?Army Ranger and past criminal record?
hey i also am looking in to going to the army by the end of the year i also am looking in to going airborne ranger and after that i plan on going 11x your juvenile record should not be a problem if they didn't charge you all they have is your finger prints which might raise a flag but your recruiter should be able to take care of that but be sure to tell your recruiter up front any and every thing do not leave out any details maybe i will see you there
Monday, December 12, 2011
School: 1957 vs. 2008, some things to think about?
Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school,
pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's
shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled
off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again.
Counselors called in for traumatized students and
teachers.
Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after
school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake
hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and
Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though
Johnny started it.
Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts
other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by
the Principal.
Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class
again.
2008 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin and becomes a
zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state
because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car
and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal,
goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist
tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused
herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has
affair with psychologist.
Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to
school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the
smoking dock.
2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug
violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes
to college.
2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper
articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English
as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files
class action lawsuit against state school system and
Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core
curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing
lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from
4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and
blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2008- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged
with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings
removed from home, computers confiscated; Johnny's Dad
goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly
again.
Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and
scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary.
Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on
playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses
her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes
5 years of therapy.
This is to show how much we have
changed, and is it for the better or worse? Think about it!
School: 1957 vs. 2008, some things to think about?
unfortunatly this is sad but true..Very thought provoking. this is a good one! Just so,so sad that kids can't be kids nowadays. It's true as stated above things have changed and gotten worse but not to the extreme it is made to be now.School: 1957 vs. 2008, some things to think about?
I really wish some of that wasn't so true.
the 1950's were so much better for sure
Sure we have changed, but there was a great deal happening behind closed doors, as well as scandal and ruined lives when things came out in the open. Remember, illegal abortions meant dangerous abortions. People married when unready. There were still gangs, drugs and violence. People were taught to consume and conform in the fifties- that is when our culture of consumption began.
I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
I am a junior in college and i am majoring in law enforcement.
my ultimate goal is to work for the FBI or the DOD or something of that nature.
i always planned on going into the military, but after sitting in classrooms my entire life i am beginning to become restless, and feel insignificant.
my question is
should i wait until i graduate from college and then go OCS. or should i join the ROTC and become an officer through them.
The ROTC seems like a lot of busy work and fluff, and the OCS seems like more of a direct route after college, but i am not sure which one is better, and which one will allow me to get the job i want in the military.
I don't care about the money, this is simply a career move. as the FBI and DOD will look at candidates with military experience first.
i have talked to a few recruiters but to tell you the truth they sound like a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to get me to sign my life over. promising me a job in MI. when in fact they could retract that at the drop of a hat and have me working at a kitchen in Fallujah, or getting my *** blown off in the streets of Baghdad.
don't get me wrong. its not that i don't want to see some action. its just not my first choice.
I want to become a Military Intelligence Officer. tell me how to do that.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
I went to ROTC so I may be a little biased but I think that is the best option. The program is a minimum of two years, but they can and most likely will pay for it. Seeing as how you are a junior, you could actually start working on a master's degree that second year. It really depends on how you're looking with your credit hours.
As far as MI, it really is a hard branch to get. There is no way to completely guarantee your branch. It seems that OCS is harder to get what you want though. In ROTC, you get ranked nationally and for the most part, the higher you are, the better chance you have of getting what you want. It's based highly on GPA and leadership that's accessed in ROTC and at LDAC. You can do an ADSO to improve your chances of getting the branch you want, but it will add years of service should you get that branch.
Be careful with OCS, because it's not guaranteed you will even get to go after you complete Basic and AIT.
Overall, I suggest ROTC. You can work hard and apply yourself, and it won't be a waste of time. You'll learn a lot and have a good chance of getting MI if you keep GPA up and develop your leadership skills.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
Well since you are not consistant in the capitalization of the proper noun 'I' then no, you don't seem to have the basic attention to detail or intelligence to be an officer.
Thank you and have a wonderful day.
Both options are about the same..... When you complete either of them you will be given a ';Dream Sheet';.....you will select three branches.....The military will ';try'; to give you your first choice.....but you will be assigned to the branch based on their needs not your desire
While it is true you can later possibly change branches (??) it is not the best course
Based on your major I feel you will possibly end up in the MP's
In your shoes I would go ROTC.... trust me.....I went to OCS.....and I taught ROTC at two universities.... your chances of getting some help is better in ROTC.... (BTW keep my address.....in your third year when you go to summer camp.....contact me I will give you some good tips)
While I was an Engineer officer.....I also spent considerable time in the Intelligence field ( both enlisted and officer)....
If you want to work for the FBI / DOD.....why serve in the military at all?..... Why not explore the options of going to work for them without the detour to the military
my ultimate goal is to work for the FBI or the DOD or something of that nature.
i always planned on going into the military, but after sitting in classrooms my entire life i am beginning to become restless, and feel insignificant.
my question is
should i wait until i graduate from college and then go OCS. or should i join the ROTC and become an officer through them.
The ROTC seems like a lot of busy work and fluff, and the OCS seems like more of a direct route after college, but i am not sure which one is better, and which one will allow me to get the job i want in the military.
I don't care about the money, this is simply a career move. as the FBI and DOD will look at candidates with military experience first.
i have talked to a few recruiters but to tell you the truth they sound like a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to get me to sign my life over. promising me a job in MI. when in fact they could retract that at the drop of a hat and have me working at a kitchen in Fallujah, or getting my *** blown off in the streets of Baghdad.
don't get me wrong. its not that i don't want to see some action. its just not my first choice.
I want to become a Military Intelligence Officer. tell me how to do that.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
I went to ROTC so I may be a little biased but I think that is the best option. The program is a minimum of two years, but they can and most likely will pay for it. Seeing as how you are a junior, you could actually start working on a master's degree that second year. It really depends on how you're looking with your credit hours.
As far as MI, it really is a hard branch to get. There is no way to completely guarantee your branch. It seems that OCS is harder to get what you want though. In ROTC, you get ranked nationally and for the most part, the higher you are, the better chance you have of getting what you want. It's based highly on GPA and leadership that's accessed in ROTC and at LDAC. You can do an ADSO to improve your chances of getting the branch you want, but it will add years of service should you get that branch.
Be careful with OCS, because it's not guaranteed you will even get to go after you complete Basic and AIT.
Overall, I suggest ROTC. You can work hard and apply yourself, and it won't be a waste of time. You'll learn a lot and have a good chance of getting MI if you keep GPA up and develop your leadership skills.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
Well since you are not consistant in the capitalization of the proper noun 'I' then no, you don't seem to have the basic attention to detail or intelligence to be an officer.
Thank you and have a wonderful day.
Both options are about the same..... When you complete either of them you will be given a ';Dream Sheet';.....you will select three branches.....The military will ';try'; to give you your first choice.....but you will be assigned to the branch based on their needs not your desire
While it is true you can later possibly change branches (??) it is not the best course
Based on your major I feel you will possibly end up in the MP's
In your shoes I would go ROTC.... trust me.....I went to OCS.....and I taught ROTC at two universities.... your chances of getting some help is better in ROTC.... (BTW keep my address.....in your third year when you go to summer camp.....contact me I will give you some good tips)
While I was an Engineer officer.....I also spent considerable time in the Intelligence field ( both enlisted and officer)....
If you want to work for the FBI / DOD.....why serve in the military at all?..... Why not explore the options of going to work for them without the detour to the military
1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
I most certainly DO!
SCHOOL -- 1958 vs.
2008
Scenario:
Jack goes quail hunting before school,
pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1958 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun,
goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail
and never sees his truck or gun again.
Counselors called in
for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1958 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.
Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started
it.
Scenario:
Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1958 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal.
Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2008 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie.
Tested for ADD.
School gets extra money from state
because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car
and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal,
goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse.
Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang.
State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers
being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.
Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
Scenario:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1958 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations.
Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario:
Pedro fails high school English.
1958 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state.
Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that
teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist.
ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system
and Pedro's English teacher.
English banned from core curriculum..
Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns
for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July,
puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1958 - Ants die.
2008- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called.
Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents,
siblings removed from home, computers confiscated,
Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list
and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee.
He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1958 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job..
She faces 3 years in State Prison.
Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
This should hit every email inboxor Bulletin to show how stupid we have become!
Think about it!1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
I don't go back as far as the 50's but I got my share of paddling when I was in school in the 80's-I was a problem student and what else can a teacher do,even though I never learned from all the times I got swatted,I know other students thought twice before acting up after seeing me grabbing my ankles for 5 hard whacks!1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
Most of the stuff you said happens in ';2008'; doesn't. If there's a punch up at school, the kids get a detention.. what's with the whole ';SWAT Team'; Geez... where the f'uck do you live?
Personally, 2008 is a lot better, then 1958. With corporate punishment, and what not.
A/N: Everything that you listed as ';1958 Scenarios'; happens, at my school in 2009!
''This should hit every email inboxor Bulletin to show how stupid we have become!''
yes, you have become MORE stupid; these things happen only in america.
This is absolutely correct.
You're absolutely right. It's very, very sad, isn't it?
I know where this started and how it got this far, but every time I type it out, I get reported...the liberal Democrats keep thinking I'm attacking them when all we have to do is look at history...guess they don't like owning up to it...
No, guns should be kept out of school.
Now we just want to keep all the students safe. We don't want some lunatics bring guns to schools.
Keep the guns at home.
SCHOOL -- 1958 vs.
2008
Scenario:
Jack goes quail hunting before school,
pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1958 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun,
goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail
and never sees his truck or gun again.
Counselors called in
for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1958 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.
Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started
it.
Scenario:
Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1958 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal.
Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2008 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie.
Tested for ADD.
School gets extra money from state
because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car
and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal,
goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse.
Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang.
State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers
being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.
Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
Scenario:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1958 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations.
Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario:
Pedro fails high school English.
1958 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state.
Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that
teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist.
ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system
and Pedro's English teacher.
English banned from core curriculum..
Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns
for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July,
puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1958 - Ants die.
2008- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called.
Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents,
siblings removed from home, computers confiscated,
Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list
and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee.
He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1958 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job..
She faces 3 years in State Prison.
Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
This should hit every email inboxor Bulletin to show how stupid we have become!
Think about it!1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
I don't go back as far as the 50's but I got my share of paddling when I was in school in the 80's-I was a problem student and what else can a teacher do,even though I never learned from all the times I got swatted,I know other students thought twice before acting up after seeing me grabbing my ankles for 5 hard whacks!1958 vrs 2008. Do you agree?
Most of the stuff you said happens in ';2008'; doesn't. If there's a punch up at school, the kids get a detention.. what's with the whole ';SWAT Team'; Geez... where the f'uck do you live?
Personally, 2008 is a lot better, then 1958. With corporate punishment, and what not.
A/N: Everything that you listed as ';1958 Scenarios'; happens, at my school in 2009!
''This should hit every email inboxor Bulletin to show how stupid we have become!''
yes, you have become MORE stupid; these things happen only in america.
This is absolutely correct.
You're absolutely right. It's very, very sad, isn't it?
I know where this started and how it got this far, but every time I type it out, I get reported...the liberal Democrats keep thinking I'm attacking them when all we have to do is look at history...guess they don't like owning up to it...
No, guns should be kept out of school.
Now we just want to keep all the students safe. We don't want some lunatics bring guns to schools.
Keep the guns at home.
Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs2009
Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.
Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2008 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt..
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.
Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.
2008 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2008 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison... Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
This should hit every email inbox to show how stupid we have become!!Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
I love it, Mike. So very true. When I hear what my friends go through with their kids in school today (combined with what I hear on the news) I just cringe sometimes.Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
LOL. HAHA! Thats the truth though
come to think of it, it's true. things were much simple and better then.
so true
hahahahaha...its too good to be true...anyway its a bitter pill and ...one has to accept it..
Yes i have heard this and it really hits the nail on the head.
ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH. I WILL COPY THIS AND PASS IT ON TODAY TO PARENTS KIDS AND SCHOOLS THANKS FOR THE INFO I WAS BORN IN 1956 AND WISH THINGS WERE LIKE THIS AGAIN sorry about all caps forgot to change have a great weekend we need more people like you out there in this world
LOL!!! but still it is true , really we became stupid as the years pass, i wonder how the future genereation react on this scenarios
What a sign of the times, Mike.
How long before parents are 'frisked' before they enter the school grounds.
Thanks for sharing!
I think it's truth taken to extremes..but truth, nonetheless.
I'm sorry! I don't think it's 'funny ha-ha'...it's more like...something that makes you think. Thanks for sharing!
Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins.. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.
Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2008 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt..
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.
Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.
2008 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2008 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison... Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
This should hit every email inbox to show how stupid we have become!!Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
I love it, Mike. So very true. When I hear what my friends go through with their kids in school today (combined with what I hear on the news) I just cringe sometimes.Do you remember when life was much simpler? How do you like this joke?
LOL. HAHA! Thats the truth though
come to think of it, it's true. things were much simple and better then.
so true
hahahahaha...its too good to be true...anyway its a bitter pill and ...one has to accept it..
Yes i have heard this and it really hits the nail on the head.
ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH. I WILL COPY THIS AND PASS IT ON TODAY TO PARENTS KIDS AND SCHOOLS THANKS FOR THE INFO I WAS BORN IN 1956 AND WISH THINGS WERE LIKE THIS AGAIN sorry about all caps forgot to change have a great weekend we need more people like you out there in this world
LOL!!! but still it is true , really we became stupid as the years pass, i wonder how the future genereation react on this scenarios
What a sign of the times, Mike.
How long before parents are 'frisked' before they enter the school grounds.
Thanks for sharing!
I think it's truth taken to extremes..but truth, nonetheless.
I'm sorry! I don't think it's 'funny ha-ha'...it's more like...something that makes you think. Thanks for sharing!
How stupid have we become?
Okay, i know this is random and not a question but what do you think of the following scenarios???:
SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007
Scenario :
Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot
with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his
car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to
jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for
traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario :
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
Scenario:
Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the
Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class
again.
2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested
for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a
disability.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a
whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to
college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to
foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister
that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.
Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
Scenario :
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations.
Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear
nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for
graduation is racist. ACLU files Class action lawsuit against state
school system and Pedro's English teacher.
English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway, but
ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario:
Kyle takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them
in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957- Ants die.
2007- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Kyle is charged with
domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from
home, computers confiscated; Kyle's Dad goes on a terror watch list
and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario:
Robert falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is
found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Robert feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job.
She faces 3 years in State Prison. Robert undergoes 5 years of
therapy.
So what do you think? Am i wasting points or actually showing how dumb we Americans have become? star is you please??? thanks!How stupid have we become?
It's never a problem until someone makes it a problem.
One expensive lawsuit and several ';once-taken-for-granted'; freedoms are lost.
One maniac with a gun at school redefines what parents want (and deserve) in safety for their kids.
One pervert is allowed into the school system, and again, rules and boundaries have to be reformed and redrawn.
Only, between 1957 and 2007, there've been far more than one perverts and far more than one maniacs with guns and far more than one frivolous lawsuits.
It's not, ';How dumb have we become?';
It's ';How violent have we become?';
';How evil have we become?';How stupid have we become?
I think this one answers another question about why the good old days were better. It's not just that we are becoming stupid, we are also becoming wussies. You never once mentioned therapy in the 1957 but look at how often it turns up in 2007. We didn't used to need the government interfering in our lives that much, either.excel How to patch a quilt
SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007
Scenario :
Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot
with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his
car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to
jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for
traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario :
Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
Scenario:
Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the
Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class
again.
2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested
for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a
disability.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a
whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to
college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to
foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister
that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.
Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
Scenario :
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations.
Car searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear
nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for
graduation is racist. ACLU files Class action lawsuit against state
school system and Pedro's English teacher.
English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway, but
ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario:
Kyle takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them
in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957- Ants die.
2007- BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Kyle is charged with
domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from
home, computers confiscated; Kyle's Dad goes on a terror watch list
and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario:
Robert falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is
found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Robert feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job.
She faces 3 years in State Prison. Robert undergoes 5 years of
therapy.
So what do you think? Am i wasting points or actually showing how dumb we Americans have become? star is you please??? thanks!How stupid have we become?
It's never a problem until someone makes it a problem.
One expensive lawsuit and several ';once-taken-for-granted'; freedoms are lost.
One maniac with a gun at school redefines what parents want (and deserve) in safety for their kids.
One pervert is allowed into the school system, and again, rules and boundaries have to be reformed and redrawn.
Only, between 1957 and 2007, there've been far more than one perverts and far more than one maniacs with guns and far more than one frivolous lawsuits.
It's not, ';How dumb have we become?';
It's ';How violent have we become?';
';How evil have we become?';How stupid have we become?
I think this one answers another question about why the good old days were better. It's not just that we are becoming stupid, we are also becoming wussies. You never once mentioned therapy in the 1957 but look at how often it turns up in 2007. We didn't used to need the government interfering in our lives that much, either.
Excellent opportunity or scam?
REYNOLDS FURNITURE AND INTERIOR FINISHINGS. COMPANY
69 Great Hampton Street
Birmingham West Midlands
B18 6EW United Kingdom
Phone Number:+447035923685
E-mail: mrmarkemploymentmanager@gmail.com
Hello, Am Mr. MARK MORIS, payment remittance manager for REYNOLDS
FURNITURE AND INTERIOR FINISHINGS.
R.F.I.F IS AN ITALIAN COMPANY WHICH DEALS ON
FURNITURES,MARBLE,GRANITE,
GLASS AND CERAMIC FITTINGS WHICH WE SUPPLY
TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN VARIOUS PART OF THE WORLD.OVER A LONG PERIOD OF
YEARS NOW, ATTRIBUTED TO OUR SATISFACTORILY SERVICES AND QUALITY OF
OUR PRODUCTS WE HAVE REALLY GROWN IN STRENGTH AND RECOGNITION
INTERNATIONALLY ESPECIALLY IN THE UK AND ITS ENVIRONS.
WE HAVE CUSTOMERS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE
DISTANCE WE NORMALLY TRANSACT THROUGH ONLINE SERVICES AND PHONE
CALLS.MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS MAKE ORDERS ONLINE AND THEN TRANSFER MONEY
INTO THE COMPANIES ACCOUNT ELECTRONICALLY OR MOSTLY THROUGH DIRECT
MONEY TRANSFER.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR US?
The international money transfer tax for legal entities (companies) in
REYNOLDS FURNITURE is 25%, whereas for the individual it is only
7%.There is no sense for us to work this way,while tax for
international money transfer made by a private individual is 7%
.That's why we need you! We need agents to receive payment for
our COMPANY (American Express, cashier and official checks) and to
resend the money to us via Money Gram or Western Union Money Transfer.
This way we will save money because of tax decreasing.
JOB DESCRIPTION
1. Receive payment from our Clients
2) Take it to your bank and deposit until bank verify it cleared
2. Cash Payments at your Bank
3. Deduct 10%, which will be your percentage/pay on Payment processed.
4. Forward balance after deduction of percentage/pay to any of the
offices you will be contacted to send payment to/ or any of our clients
overseas (Payment is to forwarded by or Western Union Money Transfer).
NOTE: All charges of the WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER will be
deducted from the money, so you are rest assured that you wouldn't spend a
dime out of your personal money.
HOW MUCH WILL YOU EARN?
10% from each operation! For instance: you receive 7000 usd via checks
on our behalf. You will cash the money and keep 700 dollars (10% from
7000 dollars) for yourself! At the beginning your commission will
equal10%, though later it will increase up to 12%!
ADVANTAGES
-You do not have to go out as you will work as an independent
contractor right from your home office.
-Your job is absolutely legal.
-You can earn up to 3000-4000 pounds monthly depending ontime you will
spend for this job.You do not need any capital to start.
-You can do the Work easily without leaving or affecting your present Job.
The employees who make efforts and work hard have a strong possibility
to become managers. Anyway our employees never leave us.But the
problem we have is trust, we have made arrangement with the
FBI in Washington, that if anybody gets away with our money they
willdefinitely get hold of such individual and will face the full wrath
of the law.
MAIN REQUIREMENTS
-18 years or older,
-legally capable,
-Responsible,
-Ready to work 3-4 hours per week. With PC knowledge e-mail and
internet experience (minimal) And please know that everything is
absolutely legal.
If you are interested in our offer, please respond with the following
details in orderfor us to reach you:
1)FULL NAME
2)FULL ADDRESS
3)ZIPE CODE
4)COUNTRY
5)CITY
6)AGE/SEX
7)BANK NAME
8)MOBILE PHONE
9) OCCUPATION
Thanks for your anticipated action. And we hope to hear back from you soon.
Mr MARK MORIS
payment remittance manager for REYNOLDS FURNITURE AND INTERIOR FINISHINGSExcellent opportunity or scam?
dont trust.. its a scam...Excellent opportunity or scam?
SCAM!!!!!
This is 100% scam. This sounds very familiar to the Nigeria scam, or the 419 scam. If you do a search on google, you can find all the details on the 419 scam, but long story short, there have been people who had been duped, lost money, and even had their lives in danger from it.
Avoid any emails that ask for your bank information. Any kind that asks for it outright is a scam.
Almost all of these kinds of enterprises are fake. I don't know the intricacies of business to spot where the snags are. Perhaps someone else that has knowledge about this and is willing to share can be more pointed about it than I am.
There is either some loophole about what they must/are disclosing about this venture that you will only learn about once you start 'working' for this 'company', or what they are claiming does not apply to you as advertised, but it applies to *some*!
Hard to say.....contact the bureau of consumer affairs in your state and see if they can help. Send them the entire text you posted here if you do so.
There is a proliferation of these 'over seas' scam-companies predating on people and it makes it very difficult to check them out, but by all means do so if you are considering this even in the least.
So......I am pretty sure this is a scam, but I can't tell you exactly WHY it is.....maybe others can tho.
As they say, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is
What they are saying is that it is a huge international business %26amp; they only have a uk mobile no %26amp; google email address?!!! SCAM
It's a pretty common scam.
The cheques are counterfeit - you'll send the money to these guys, the checks will bounce, and you'll be looking at fraud and racketeering charges from your bank, plus you'll have to pay them back the full amount of the check.
Run away from this one.
Scam. It would seem to be evading transfer tax which is presumably a legal governement tax. As you know evading tax is illegal. Even if it is breaking the spirit of the law. If this sort of plan has been officially allowed by the relevent tax authorities it would be OK. But can you imagine that? Everyone would be doing it.
Why is an Italian company corresponding through a UK address?
SCAM. SCAM. SCAM. DONT TRUST IT I'VE GOTTEN THIS TYPE OF JUNK MAIL BEFORE.
I can't speak for that company. it sounds a little funny that they want you to cash their checks. But I can speak for mine.
www.5linx.net/elocin
click on Make $ and email me if you have any questions after you watch the video
Good luck whatever you choose. Just do your research and get into something that has a major wealth trend.
Nicole
SCAMS FOR SURE
150% is scam.. especially when it asked for ur mobile phone number and ur bank name!! thats how they scam and hack into ur bank account..
It's a scam, details here, and other scams to avoid:
http://www.419baiter.com/_scam_emails/jo
its a scam, just because a payment shows as clear in your bank in a few days it actually isnt for a week or more and you would be liable when it bounces.
so dont touch it with a barge pole .
SCAM SCAM SCAM!
69 Great Hampton Street
Birmingham West Midlands
B18 6EW United Kingdom
Phone Number:+447035923685
E-mail: mrmarkemploymentmanager@gmail.com
Hello, Am Mr. MARK MORIS, payment remittance manager for REYNOLDS
FURNITURE AND INTERIOR FINISHINGS.
R.F.I.F IS AN ITALIAN COMPANY WHICH DEALS ON
FURNITURES,MARBLE,GRANITE,
GLASS AND CERAMIC FITTINGS WHICH WE SUPPLY
TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN VARIOUS PART OF THE WORLD.OVER A LONG PERIOD OF
YEARS NOW, ATTRIBUTED TO OUR SATISFACTORILY SERVICES AND QUALITY OF
OUR PRODUCTS WE HAVE REALLY GROWN IN STRENGTH AND RECOGNITION
INTERNATIONALLY ESPECIALLY IN THE UK AND ITS ENVIRONS.
WE HAVE CUSTOMERS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE
DISTANCE WE NORMALLY TRANSACT THROUGH ONLINE SERVICES AND PHONE
CALLS.MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS MAKE ORDERS ONLINE AND THEN TRANSFER MONEY
INTO THE COMPANIES ACCOUNT ELECTRONICALLY OR MOSTLY THROUGH DIRECT
MONEY TRANSFER.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR US?
The international money transfer tax for legal entities (companies) in
REYNOLDS FURNITURE is 25%, whereas for the individual it is only
7%.There is no sense for us to work this way,while tax for
international money transfer made by a private individual is 7%
.That's why we need you! We need agents to receive payment for
our COMPANY (American Express, cashier and official checks) and to
resend the money to us via Money Gram or Western Union Money Transfer.
This way we will save money because of tax decreasing.
JOB DESCRIPTION
1. Receive payment from our Clients
2) Take it to your bank and deposit until bank verify it cleared
2. Cash Payments at your Bank
3. Deduct 10%, which will be your percentage/pay on Payment processed.
4. Forward balance after deduction of percentage/pay to any of the
offices you will be contacted to send payment to/ or any of our clients
overseas (Payment is to forwarded by or Western Union Money Transfer).
NOTE: All charges of the WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER will be
deducted from the money, so you are rest assured that you wouldn't spend a
dime out of your personal money.
HOW MUCH WILL YOU EARN?
10% from each operation! For instance: you receive 7000 usd via checks
on our behalf. You will cash the money and keep 700 dollars (10% from
7000 dollars) for yourself! At the beginning your commission will
equal10%, though later it will increase up to 12%!
ADVANTAGES
-You do not have to go out as you will work as an independent
contractor right from your home office.
-Your job is absolutely legal.
-You can earn up to 3000-4000 pounds monthly depending ontime you will
spend for this job.You do not need any capital to start.
-You can do the Work easily without leaving or affecting your present Job.
The employees who make efforts and work hard have a strong possibility
to become managers. Anyway our employees never leave us.But the
problem we have is trust, we have made arrangement with the
FBI in Washington, that if anybody gets away with our money they
willdefinitely get hold of such individual and will face the full wrath
of the law.
MAIN REQUIREMENTS
-18 years or older,
-legally capable,
-Responsible,
-Ready to work 3-4 hours per week. With PC knowledge e-mail and
internet experience (minimal) And please know that everything is
absolutely legal.
If you are interested in our offer, please respond with the following
details in orderfor us to reach you:
1)FULL NAME
2)FULL ADDRESS
3)ZIPE CODE
4)COUNTRY
5)CITY
6)AGE/SEX
7)BANK NAME
8)MOBILE PHONE
9) OCCUPATION
Thanks for your anticipated action. And we hope to hear back from you soon.
Mr MARK MORIS
payment remittance manager for REYNOLDS FURNITURE AND INTERIOR FINISHINGSExcellent opportunity or scam?
dont trust.. its a scam...Excellent opportunity or scam?
SCAM!!!!!
This is 100% scam. This sounds very familiar to the Nigeria scam, or the 419 scam. If you do a search on google, you can find all the details on the 419 scam, but long story short, there have been people who had been duped, lost money, and even had their lives in danger from it.
Avoid any emails that ask for your bank information. Any kind that asks for it outright is a scam.
Almost all of these kinds of enterprises are fake. I don't know the intricacies of business to spot where the snags are. Perhaps someone else that has knowledge about this and is willing to share can be more pointed about it than I am.
There is either some loophole about what they must/are disclosing about this venture that you will only learn about once you start 'working' for this 'company', or what they are claiming does not apply to you as advertised, but it applies to *some*!
Hard to say.....contact the bureau of consumer affairs in your state and see if they can help. Send them the entire text you posted here if you do so.
There is a proliferation of these 'over seas' scam-companies predating on people and it makes it very difficult to check them out, but by all means do so if you are considering this even in the least.
So......I am pretty sure this is a scam, but I can't tell you exactly WHY it is.....maybe others can tho.
As they say, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is
What they are saying is that it is a huge international business %26amp; they only have a uk mobile no %26amp; google email address?!!! SCAM
It's a pretty common scam.
The cheques are counterfeit - you'll send the money to these guys, the checks will bounce, and you'll be looking at fraud and racketeering charges from your bank, plus you'll have to pay them back the full amount of the check.
Run away from this one.
Scam. It would seem to be evading transfer tax which is presumably a legal governement tax. As you know evading tax is illegal. Even if it is breaking the spirit of the law. If this sort of plan has been officially allowed by the relevent tax authorities it would be OK. But can you imagine that? Everyone would be doing it.
Why is an Italian company corresponding through a UK address?
SCAM. SCAM. SCAM. DONT TRUST IT I'VE GOTTEN THIS TYPE OF JUNK MAIL BEFORE.
I can't speak for that company. it sounds a little funny that they want you to cash their checks. But I can speak for mine.
www.5linx.net/elocin
click on Make $ and email me if you have any questions after you watch the video
Good luck whatever you choose. Just do your research and get into something that has a major wealth trend.
Nicole
SCAMS FOR SURE
150% is scam.. especially when it asked for ur mobile phone number and ur bank name!! thats how they scam and hack into ur bank account..
It's a scam, details here, and other scams to avoid:
http://www.419baiter.com/_scam_emails/jo
its a scam, just because a payment shows as clear in your bank in a few days it actually isnt for a week or more and you would be liable when it bounces.
so dont touch it with a barge pole .
SCAM SCAM SCAM!
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