my ultimate goal is to work for the FBI or the DOD or something of that nature.
i always planned on going into the military, but after sitting in classrooms my entire life i am beginning to become restless, and feel insignificant.
my question is
should i wait until i graduate from college and then go OCS. or should i join the ROTC and become an officer through them.
The ROTC seems like a lot of busy work and fluff, and the OCS seems like more of a direct route after college, but i am not sure which one is better, and which one will allow me to get the job i want in the military.
I don't care about the money, this is simply a career move. as the FBI and DOD will look at candidates with military experience first.
i have talked to a few recruiters but to tell you the truth they sound like a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to get me to sign my life over. promising me a job in MI. when in fact they could retract that at the drop of a hat and have me working at a kitchen in Fallujah, or getting my *** blown off in the streets of Baghdad.
don't get me wrong. its not that i don't want to see some action. its just not my first choice.
I want to become a Military Intelligence Officer. tell me how to do that.
Also i scored pretty high on the ASVAB, so its not like i am Gomer Pile trying to be 007 or something. so i qualify for almost any job. i just don't want to get screwed into some job i don't want for 6 years, and then have the FBI asking me why all i did for six years was do laundry. i am just really nervous about getting screwed over by the military into doing some menial job that an asshole could do. how do i lock in this MI job?I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
I'm not sure why you think ROTC is fluff. My cadets balance schoolwork, part time employment in addition to their ROTC responsibilities. ROTC is designed to mimic active duty as closely as possible in the academic environment. If you do it right, it pretty demanding.
Reading your post tells me you don't really understand much about the military. . . ie we have contractors to do our laundry.... If you sign a contract for MI and you don't screw things up, you'll get MI.
Have you considered taking ROTC for a semester and finding out more information? If you decide its not for you, don't take anymore ROTC. If you like, great, keep at it.I want to become a military intelligence officer. should i go ROTC or just wait?
Probably he thinks the ROTC is a fluff compared with whatever training he undergone in the camps overseas, if you get my drift. What do you think an MI officer does? Funny man
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u should probably just wait and get your degree and go into ROTC
My father was a police officer back before they used tanks, M-16, and would follow someone home who had one too many instead of giving them a 5 year prison sentence. The FBI in Phoenix, Arizona issued a memo a few months ago saying anyone quoting the doctrines of this country should be watched as a terrorist. Are you sure the FBI is the type of law inforcement you seek? Talk to a recruiter but get everything in writing. When I enlisted I was guaranteed Aircraft Matainance. What I got was infantry raido opperator.
ROTC is great to have on your resume for applying for military officer's school. It also prepares in a way for the strict discipline required.
Ok you have to be in ROTC for at least 2 years, you have to go to LTC (Leadership Training Camp) in the summer, some Jr's joined ROTC and went this summer but they have to stick around for another one or two semesters in order to full fill their ROTC training requirements.
The next summer you have to go to LDAC (Leadership Development Assessment Course) and either commission at the end of that course or come back for another semester.
You HAVE to attend these two courses if you are not prior service, if you are prior service you only need to attend LDAC, but still have to complete your MS 3 and MS 4 semesters (two semesters of each)
Talk to an ROTC recruiter for more info, NOT a REGULAR ARMY recruiter.
Your GPA, Training, Evaluations and score from LDAC will determine what branch (officer job) you get. You get to make a list but they ';draft'; people into each branch based on how high your overall score is.
I'm going Infantry branch detail Military Intelligence. Which means I'll be infantry while I'm an LT and transfer to MI when I make Captain. It was my first pick.
Before you are given any type of training in the MI field you will have a background security investigation ran on you . They will know more about you than your own Mother knows when they are finished. That investigation is conducted after you are sworn in , so if you are not deemed worthy of a clearance , you will be assigned to a MOS that your aptitude qualifies you for and what the needs of whatever branch of service you are in happen to be at that particular time. The reason it is done after you are in is that it is expensive to do the investigation. They don't want to do it before hand and then you change your mind about entering the service.
If you are really dead set on getting MI, ROTC is the better option. This is how it works:
USMA gets the first pick of branches
ROTC gets the second pick of branches
OCS gets the the third choice of branches. However despite that, there are still branches available from all areas including the very competitive ones to get such as Infantry, Armor, Military Intelligence
In ROTC to determine which branch you get, 40% is College GPA, the remaining is from ROTC. If you didn't get MI, the are other ways to try and get the branch you want from ROTC. One way is to increase the amount of time you will serve in the Army at a minimum. But even if you offer to do that and still don't get MI, you have to be prepared to have the risk of not getting MI. You are more likely to get MI as enlisted rather than as an officer. If you didn't get MI though initially, you might have to serve as in another branch from 2LT to 1LT, but when you are 1LT promotable, you might be able to switch branches then. And ultimately if you can't switch branches, regardless of the branch you will receive, you will be an officer and gain experience leading people. Also if you don't get MI, there is always the option of Military Police too and Signal Corps.
ok first of all, your right about the recruiters. they dont care about you, they just want you to sign up so it looks good on their records and they will say anything to make you sign. My best advive would be to talk to as many people as you can in the job that you want and see how they did it
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