Why does the FBI give more weight to the USMC then the ARMY when hiring?

I constantly read how all branches are equal and train equally and are just as hard core as the next..im not a believer in this since only some jobs do physical work...



yes,all branches are great and respected, but why does the FBI give more weight/consideration to the USMC when hiring for its Hostage Rescue Team(HRT)? If all combat MOS's are the same, as many argue and if both the Army and Marines get trained the same as many also argue, then why does a group like the FBI who is well respected, not agree with all of you?



How can the army combat MOS's say they are just as equal as the USMC combat MOS's if even the FBI does not see it this way?



The FBI will consider anyone in the combat MOS's in the USMC but in the Army they give more weight to the elite units and not the same weight to the average combat MOS. The FBI did not mention they want Recon, or Force Recon,or MARSOC, they consider the combat MOS's equal in the USMC, why isnt it the same in the Army if the Army time after time argues that they are equal to if not better then the USMC combat MOS's?



from FBI web site..

Military Experience ?Army

Combat Arms experience. Service in Special Forces Group or Ranger Regiment will carry more weight.



Military Experience ?Navy

Must have served in the Naval Special Warfare Community as a SEAL or Naval Special Warfare Officer.



Military Experience ?Marine Corps

Combat Arms experience.



Military Experience ?Air Force

Must have served in Combat Controller, Combat Rescue (Pararescue), or Tactical Air Control Party fields.Why does the FBI give more weight to the USMC then the ARMY when hiring?
I guess the FBI does not see the two combat branches as equals. This is nothing new to me, only Marines go through USMC boot camp and that fact alone carries alot of weight.



This is not a slam on anyone branch, its just the truth. My proof is what the FBI states and looks for when hiring.



I was reading that information recently on their web site. It does make you think.



Here is the link to the job bulletin.

http://www.fbijobs.gov/116.asp#4Why does the FBI give more weight to the USMC then the ARMY when hiring?
The USMC and FBI train togther (not together, but at the same place) at Quantico alot so they cross paths daily and gain more respect for each other. (JUST MY OBSERVATION). Also, the USMC boot camp is hands down the toughest boot camp and I'm pretty sure all other branches will agree on that, unless they are too proud to admit it-I'm Army and I'll admit it.
Marine Corps all of the way. You don't need to be in any special unit all you have to be a US Marine OORAH
Semper, you don't need to be a Marine, you need to be a Combat Arms Marine.



These are guidelines, you could also of served on a S.W.A.T. team for many years.



To me, the Marine Corps Special Operations is very confusing to get into, where as Rangers you need option 40 in your contract to go there, or join as a 18x to go to Special Forces. Navy has the SEAL contract that you can start with, and you can enlist into any of the Air Force Special Operations. Theirs are all very straight forward.
the usmc , training as a whole is stricter than other branches. USMC is way more strict than any other branch period.
You are reading things into that list that just aren't there. It says experience in Army Special Forces %26amp; Ranger units will carry more weight than Army Combat Arms Experience - not that Marine Combat Arms Experience carries more weight than Army Combat Arms Experience. It seems pretty obvious to me that an objective study of that list indicates that the FBI prefers Special Operations experience over regular line unit experience. Special Forces, Rangers, Seals = Spec Ops. Marines = Regular Line Unit.



The reason for this is painfully obvious - the HRT performs missions that place a premium on target identification and fire discipline in an urban environment. That type of mission is practiced daily by Army Special Forces %26amp; Ranger battalions (whose missions regularly involve surgical strikes %26amp; efforts to capture terrorist leaders), but Army %26amp; Marine line units run missions designed to control large areas on a map and kill massive numbers of lower echelon fighters.



The reason Force Recon is not mentioned is that their missions rarely fall under SOCOM. Force Recon is exactly what it sounds like - the recon element of the Marine Corp. Their mission bears no more resemblance to a SOCOM mission than any other recon unit in the services (the Army's LRRP's or Cavalry Recon units, for example).



Line units are the sword, Spec Ops is a scalpel. HRT is about saving hostages more than it is about busting into a room %26amp; killing everyone in sight. It only makes sense that they prefer Spec Ops experience.



And serving in the beloved Corps is not Spec Ops experience. Their mindset is more of an ';apply overwhelming force to kill anything that moves'; type mentality that is difficult to overcome in civilian swat-type situations. In fact, it can be quite a detrimant to their training.
AS you can plainly see, the Marines are thoroughly trained before they see their first duty station. This is because their first duty station could very well be combat. In the Navy and Air Force, the units cited offer the training consistent to what the FBI looks for. Because the Army is co-educational, the FBI realizes the average soldier no longer gets the hard @ss training it once did, therefore the FBI looks in three areas 1) Combat experience 2) Rangers 3) Special Forces. These are the people who can best fill the bill coming from the army.



So, the propagandists are close to being accurate, but the FBI can read between the lines !
lmao@mikea

We have more women with actual combat experience than your marines.

And if you think your guys are trained out of boot and infantry school than you are the worlds biggest idiot for a tl,sl, or psg that ever existed.

Hell, I don't even let a cherry carry my radio.
Actually the FBI is going to look for individuals who have training that they could use. A regular infantry Marine is not going to have the same training that a Marine SRT member might have. Boot camp plays no part in the decision.
Well, recently , the marines corps denies the existence of force recon, and say it is all just in marsoc.

But it says combat arms experience in army to. but SF will weigh more.

plus the FBI has a history with the USMC. they train together on occasions in quantico.



oh and you must remember being in force recon or in marsoc in general is not an MOS. so they just say combat experience.
Open your eyes my friend. I love the Marines, two of my own brothers are officers in the Marines and I have to listen to the Marine Corps BS all the time. My father was in the Army, he was a Ranger, as I was, yet my brothers still think they are the bad as*es of the family, but if you read what you wrote, it says Army combat Arms experience, service in SF Group or Ranger Reg will carry more weight, and for Marines, Combat arms experience. Just another typical jarhead reading things they way they want to hear them. You fail.
In general, Marines are more disciplined and mission focused than the other services. They don't ask questions, they don't screw up and they get the job done. What more could you ask for?